From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 08 05:27:11 2020 Received: (at 41735) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2020 09:27:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55932 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jiE3i-0002Rb-Qt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 05:27:10 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f65.google.com ([209.85.221.65]:42012) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jiE3h-0002RK-HA for 41735@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 05:27:09 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f65.google.com with SMTP id p5so16554003wrw.9 for <41735@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 02:27:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=vCtYsOrCsnW9XEAG2bq9fNWu0AcetGWKTOyCaFgF5Q8=; b=OWkOfgbPQejXwWl34Funjtd1JVDf+Qs1UUkyLkkqyIv/y9GUsAV4k1bVTnq2UBtusj REv0nTz/1YrhAvyE6efS4rYDtN1RbpEZhzR3PQ35aR0r5EUc2QQl8hpWIzafG/U9ZIB+ VnI19IVrMVon8xNIyf5x2IfyZ751v++0mm6EOw91xzfA8hxudQE/LjVYZGLOZhsttcXD U9Sxvi4YE4qDLc+DkhscsVumfWRDr2sNSmQn8G8Hf9uCNUeFU8BvXa12QAh9iWms/OTW y/dhwZorgqUnmWiezB+673GhuHRjIm3AyS0fH6Udq7wj6hVaFCCNm+wrGQX8xcMurSX9 P7HA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=vCtYsOrCsnW9XEAG2bq9fNWu0AcetGWKTOyCaFgF5Q8=; b=Pd364yNgvLge4Kt2QQ2L1wF7scjw6OEXX6d5cpCEsW5AkISg/2buwvYR139bWwyq2y N6445hg79Mba10oR6L0o3ZoddEP4F0kQamWPdQf8tv2f8/h0g7nhvbyHutpbhJIbz+Nw VkjZTL+X4dpHY+LgjB7ri/P/guRM3kglK3IDh/gk5SbD1dlDn3RhmmkTXUQuRf3Rnjg6 +kMwlq2esKGuRbR3HPYJnVQYubSWib9nX8gyfzTi2ZOZK9/1yR/sMfh0PnRJNEGEoevG WZfzs6JR60bG6RmWjYq9m1cdB7m5jNYSWCh+3GPOZBE4Tt73gXT+rVTvXoR0DR6nCjKT HkNg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530oJz1hRBkj6a5+ajTiusFLndc4UMnkWLeD6h6xE0b0niaPdrch 8rlhZxdLxr14TwZbAOhWX0VuqzR4g80= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwwZcO1M7QoeGbHCk4ksQtRIJFlMQwN7DUvLNj6CvvzrWSFecq0eeMRwa+YeoQ29AJdXmRtGg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:1192:: with SMTP id g18mr23519958wrx.326.1591608423691; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 02:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from meru (lfbn-ann-1-136-86.w86-200.abo.wanadoo.fr. [86.200.104.86]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r11sm23589666wre.25.2020.06.08.02.27.02 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 08 Jun 2020 02:27:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mathieu Othacehe To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Subject: Re: [bug#41735] [PATCH 1/2] gnu: Add openssh-no-x. References: <20200606091428.32138-1-othacehe@gnu.org> <20200606091552.32625-1-othacehe@gnu.org> <87o8pw4ipd.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2020 11:27:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87o8pw4ipd.fsf@gnu.org> (Jan Nieuwenhuizen's message of "Sat, 06 Jun 2020 12:00:46 +0200") Message-ID: <87ftb5c3h6.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41735 Cc: 41735@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hey Jan, > Two remarks: after merging, we may want to use openssh-no-x for the Hurd > too and drop this from openssh proper: > > ,@(if (hurd-target?) > '() > `(("xauth" ,xauth))))) ; for 'ssh -X' and 'ssh -Y' > > We have this bit because xauth does not compile for the Hurd yet, > but it's kind of a kludge. I just did push the serie, so I think you could maybe adapt the openssh package used by the Hurd and remove the snippet above, if it's ok for you? > Not to hold this up and maybe we should take this discussion > elsewhere...but I have a ~5y old, bit-rotting stack of LilyPond cross > build packages (foo-SANS-X) laying around. At the time--much to my > suprise--I found the LilyPond community less than enthousiastic to move > their binary package builds to Guix (yet); but adding these -NO-X > packages felt a bit weird. So, I wonder if we could address the X'yness > of packages in a more structured way, that would be nice... Yes I share your concerns on that one, sadly I don't have much better to propose, and I think it's important to have a bare-bones template as minimal as possible. Anyway, this is not a big hack and it will be easy to revert it if we find a better way. Thanks, Mathieu